The Mayan Apocalypse of 2012: Part 2 – Nibiru & Cosmic Alignments

In part 1 I investigated the Mayan origin of the 2012 Apocalypse prediction, and found that the Maya never actually predicted the end of the world, certainly not in December 2012. The myth that the world will be destroyed is a Western idea and has nothing to do with the Maya, in fact, the Maya living today are getting fed-up with all this nonsense.

However, people have made predictions that various natural disasters could occur in 2012, such as solar storms, planetary collisions and polar reversals, some of which could threaten humanity. Even if the Mayan prophecy isn’t true, could any of these catastrophes still happen?

In this post I’ll look at the planet Nibiru and cosmic alignment, in the next post I’ll look at solar storms and asteroid and comet impacts, and the 4th post I’ll look at super volcanoes and polar reversals.

As before, I’ll do this with an objective and open-mind, as a lot of people are worried about these events and I believe they should be clearly understood by everyone.

I’ll start with the least likely one….

Planet X/Nibiru

Nibiru, also called Planet X, is claimed to be a planet orbiting our Sun. Never heard of it? Apparently that’s because modern scientists weren’t aware of Nibiru until very recently, because its orbit is so big that it’s been hiding out in deep space for thousands of years and couldn’t be seen from Earth. Its orbit is so big that it apparently takes 3600 years to complete one lap (it takes one year for Earth, about 12 years for Jupiter and about 165 for Neptune).

Nibiru? Actually its V838 Mon, a Hubble image of a star with an expanding gas shell

Although modern astronomers weren’t unaware of Nibiru, the 2012 myths claim that ancient civilizations were. The author Zecharia Sitchin named the planet Nibiru after a Sumerian name, and claimed that many ancient civilizations were aware of it, including the Sumerians, the ancient Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians.

The claim is that Nibiru is headed back into our Solar System and towards Earth, some sources say that on the 21st of December 2012 Nibiru will collide with our planet, totally destroying the Earth, while other sources say it will pass close to us, causing damage in a variety of ways, including creating tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, polar reversals or even raining the Earth with asteroids dislodged from the asteroid belt. Other, more imaginative sources, claim that Nibiru is inhabited by an evil race, sometimes called the Nephilim, sometimes the Anunnaki, who will attack Earth on December the 21st, enslaving humanity and stealing our gold (for some reason they love gold).

I’ll be taking that gold, and all your women too

However none of this is true. Zecharia Sitchin is not an expert in ancient civilizations, although he claimed he was, and no archaeologist or historian has even found a reference to the planet Nibiru in any ancient texts, it appears Sitchin made these claims up in order to sell his books.

If Nibiru were to strike the Earth in 2012 then it would be visible in our sky today, it would appear as a large bright object in the night sky, likely larger than the Moon by now. Take a look tonight, you won’t see Nibiru, because it isn’t there. Some people have claimed this is because it can only be seen from the South Pole, or that it’s hiding behind the Sun. Both are geometrically impossible, if something can be seen from the South Pole it can be seen from the entire Southern Hemisphere of Earth, and something can’t hide behind the Sun for long, as the Earth travels right the way around the Sun each year.

Others have claimed that they have seen Nibiru in the sky. Nibiru photos can be found on the internet, like the one above, which are usually optical effects caused by the camera itself, such as the Sun reflecting off the lens of the camera and creating a double image. Think about it, if Nibiru was close enough to the Sun to be photographed, then if you could see the Sun, you’d be able to see Nibiru too, from anywhere on the Earth, go and look outside towards the Sun right now, I guarantee Nibiru won’t be there. Other have claimed that NASA has officially stated Nibiru exists, and that they have pictures of it taken by the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS). This isn’t true; NASA denies the existence of Nibiru (they say so here).

Nibiru huh? I just looked, its not there (its a fake!)

Some astronomers have claimed that there could be another planet in our Solar System, far beyond Neptune in the outer regions of our Solar System, and that it could be huge. This is based on either the perturbations of Uranus and Neptune’s orbits, or the displacement of comets from the Oort cloud, either of which could be caused by the passage of a more distant planet. In 1983 it was even reported that IRAS had found a number of objects deep in our Solar System, some of which could have been planets. However, after further analysis it was soon realised by NASA that the objects weren’t planets; they were all more distant objects, most of them galaxies.

Nibiru is an exciting idea, but it doesn’t exist; there are no known references to it in any ancient text, it can’t be seen in the night sky, NASA has not found it and is not part of a conspiracy to keep it hidden, and the photos are all fakes. Think about it, if Nibiru was heading towards us, NASA or any government wouldn’t be able to keep it a secret as almost anyone would be able to see it in the sky, and the media would be all over it. This hasn’t happened. There is no Nibiru.

Still unconvinced? This isn’t even the first time Nibiru has been predicted to pass Earth. Nancy Lieder claimed it would fly past on the 27th of May 2003. It didn’t. I’m sure someone will make another Nibiru claim after 2012, maybe 2025?

Cosmic alignment

Another idea is that a cosmic alignment will occur on the 21st of December 2012, and that this will somehow damage the Earth. A cosmic alignment, is supposed to be an occasion when the Earth aligns with at least one other object in the sky, such as another planet, a star or even a galaxy. Lots of different alignments have been predicted for 2012, including an alignment of the Earth with the other planets in our Solar System, and even the alignment of the Earth with the centre of our Galaxy.

However, astronomers can accurately predict the motions of the planets in our Solar System, and no planetary alignments will occur on the 21st of December 2012. Not one. As for the Earth aligning with the centre of our Galaxy, well the Earth does pass through the central plane of rotation of our Galaxy (although not through the actual core of the Galaxy) but this happens over thousands of years so it would be unrepresentative to say on one given day that this is occurring. Also, this has happened millions of times in the Earth’s history, and has had no noticeable effect on life on Earth, as demonstrated by our historical records and the fossil record.

This idea may have been started by a misunderstanding of astronomy, as the 21st of December 2012 is the Winter Solstice for the Northern hemisphere, this is the time of the year when the Earth is in a position that means the Northern half of Earth receives the least sunlight, it’s the shortest day of the year. But this happens once every year, so we know its not harmful for us or the Earth. It’s usually just cold and a bit depressing.

The Winter Solstice is the one on the right, when the Northern hemisphere faces away from the Sun

Even if an alignment did occur, how would this effect the Earth? The most common claim seams to be that if our planets aligned with the Earth, or if the Sun aligned with the super massive black hole at the centre of our Galaxy, then the gravitational effect of each body would be magnified and would damage the Earth.

This isn’t how gravity works though, the strength of gravity depends upon the size of the objects and how close they are to each other. Alignments have no effect as it’s the distance between two bodies that matters, not the position. Gravity is extremely weak over large distances, if you double the distance then gravity becomes four times weaker. The super massive black hole at the core of our galaxy is massive and exerts a huge gravitational pull, but its so far away from Earth that its gravitational impact is undetectable. An apple in my hand exerts a much greater pull on the Earth than the black hole at the core of our Galaxy. How about the planets? Well if you aligned all planets in our Solar System to one side of the Earth (which is impossible), the combined effect would equal one half of a percent of the Moon’s gravity on Earth.

On the 21st of December 2012 there will be no cosmic alignments, even if one did happen, it would not be harmful to the Earth, as there is no known mechanism by which an alignment could affect the Earth apart from gravity, and we know this effect would be so small it’d be unnoticeable. The Earth has been through many alignments in the past, and no harmful effects have even been experienced.

So there you have it. Nibiru doesn’t exist, and cosmic alignments do exist but can’t harm the Earth.

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59 Responses to “The Mayan Apocalypse of 2012: Part 2 – Nibiru & Cosmic Alignments”


  1. 1 vincent April 13, 2011 at 10:22 am

    ermm i think is a bit too long haha sorry about tat anyway can u tell me the conclusion?? is it true or fake?? or we dont kno yet??
    and 1 more thing can nibiru randomly come out of it orbit?? to me all planet cant come out of the orbit.

    • 2 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 1:23 pm

      Hi Vincent

      Thanks for the comment

      I know about the length, I keep planning to write short posts but then they usually end up being quite long, I seem to get a bit carried away 🙂

      The conclusion is that Nibiru doesn’t exist. Everything you read about it is made up unfortunately, it’s all a hoax.

      I know its very easy of me to say that, but the best proof that its a hoax is that if a planet was really going to hit or pass close to the Earth in 2012, then it would already be very close to us, and you’d be able to see it in the sky, most clearly at night. But I’ve checked, and it’s not there. There are also a lot of professional and amateur astronomers out there, and none of them have ever made serious claims about finding Nibiru

      • 3 Jay May 8, 2012 at 12:37 pm

        ???? There are hundreds of people claiming to have seen it!!!!!!! I’m not either way yet but if your going to try educating people then at leat tell all facts even those you don’t like. Hundreds are CLAIMING to have seen it

      • 4 Dan Swindlehurst May 24, 2012 at 7:50 pm

        I think its important to be open-minded, but you should also be skeptical, which means looking at the evidence.

        There isn’t any real evidence for Nibiru though, it doesn’t matter how many people have claimed to have seen it, or how many badly-photoshopped pictures you see, if a planet was going to strike Earth in December 2012 you could walk out into the street right now and see it with your eyes. I’ve just checked, it isn’t there.

  2. 5 vincent April 13, 2011 at 10:29 am

    1 more thing here the evidence i found about nibiru http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5KS9L0_ZFw
    here the evidence of nibiru mayb to u is littile but i just wan 2 kno is it true???? can u explain this?? i kno tat if u tell me is true mayb u think i going 2 gone crazy or sumthing but pls tell me pls…………..

    • 6 vincent April 13, 2011 at 10:49 am


      this is the evidence of nibiru i dont kno is it true i wan 2 kno yr reply tat all

      • 7 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 1:37 pm

        First off, I’m impressed you posted a video in the comments section, I didn’t know that was possible 🙂

        Again, I’d say this is a hoax video. The quality is so bad that these lights could be anything, they could even be created by a torch in a basement

        But the key to this video is right at the end of the clip when it says:

        “If I am able to see this object, with its moon, on my old handheld DV camera, from my kitchen window, it must be real close to the Earth!”

        If Nibiru was close to the Earth, so close that this person can see the object in the sky, then everybody else on Earth should be able to as well. We’re all looking at the same part of the sky after all. But Nibiru isn’t out there.

        I hope this helps?

    • 8 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

      OK, this comment is supposed to be for the first video link you posted, in your second comment, but my blog keeps putting my response in the wrong place!

      This video seems to be taking some scientific truths but then twisting them to make them sound like proof for the existence of another planet, but its not really true.

      For example, NASA does have a telescope called IRAS, and in 1983 it did find some objects, that some people thought could be undiscovered planets in our Solar System. But when NASA investigated in more detail they found that they weren’t planets, they were much bigger and more distant objects. Most of them were actually other galaxies.

      This video mentions that IRAS found these objects, but then ignores the truth about what they really are. So its deliberately trying to be misleading.

      I’d say the person who made this video is purposefully trying to confuse and frighten people.

  3. 9 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    ermmm most of it i understand but i still confused so is it true tat nibiru close to earth?? i need conclusion haha sorry about tat
    this is another evidence again c this 1 pls

  4. 11 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    opps i didnt read the 1st 1 opps sorry

  5. 12 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    so can u tell me about this evidence?? so u really think is fake?? i not saying anything bad but i wan 2 double check tat all 😀

    • 13 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 2:18 pm

      No worries, its good to question 🙂

      For Nibiru, there is no real science or real evidence behind the claims. Some of the evidence is simply made up, and a lot of it is based on real science but people twist the reality to make it seem like it something that its not. NASA scientists did think they may have found another planet in 1983, but then they realised they were wrong, but the Nibiru videos never mention this

      Another point is that you never see reports from professional news networks talking about Nibiru, you never see stories on CNN or the BBC. Mostly it’s videos on Youtube or blog posts.But if Nibiru really did exist it would be a huge news story and you wouldn’t be able to turn the TV on without seeing something about it

      • 14 vincent April 13, 2011 at 3:04 pm

        ok tat offensive lol joking anyway wad u think if we saw nibiru going 2 hit earth 2012 wadsoever wad u think????

      • 15 vincent April 13, 2011 at 3:18 pm

        o gud point

      • 16 Jay May 8, 2012 at 12:47 pm

        Hahahaha lol lmfao So, you say that if there were to be some great earth changing disaster around the corner then the big 5 media conglomerates, who own every paper and program bettween them, who are also in bed with worlds government, would rush out and tell us all the truth for the good of mankind! I am not getting into is there/isn’t there but to me this one statement debunks everything you say. If it was there n they told us, the world would b plunged into chaos. No point going to work, no point paying your mortgage, no point paying for anything. The real low life scum would riot rape and steal. Really you think that mainstream media don’t tell us then its not happening, my friend I think you need to go back and start your research all over again but with a different outlook. Like I said I’m not even getting into planet x yet but your way of thinking seems to worry me when your here Teaching people

      • 17 Dan Swindlehurst May 24, 2012 at 8:01 pm

        “my friend I think you need to go back and start your research all over again but with a different outlook”. When you investigate a subject you shouldn’t begin with an outlook other than being open-minded and skeptical. This was the case with these posts, I took a dispassionate look at the evidence.

        I agree that if a government knew about an upcoming world-ending disaster then they would probably try and repress it, for the reasons you mention above. However, looking at the evidence of how governments and the media actually works, I don’t believe they would be able to do it. Government’s leak information all the time, they’re awful at keeping secrets, just look at Wikileaks!!! And also the idea that the media is controlled by the government in democratic countries is a popular conspiracy theory, but it doesn’t stand up to the evidence, the media is constantly exposing the wrongdoings of those in power.

        I don’t know where you’re from, but in my country, Great Britain, there’s loads of examples of the government doing wrong and the media exposing them, right now we have an ongoing investigation where a newspaper, called the Guardian, exposed corruption in government, in the police and in other parts of the media. It shows that corrupt relationships do exist between the media and those in charge, but because people are fallible, make mistakes, get angry and emotional, sometimes want to do the right thing etc, any information is very hard to keep secret.

      • 18 david May 28, 2012 at 6:43 pm

        I think it makes more sense to realize that we are everyday in danger from some threat. But! I only interpet 2012 as a wakeup call. Which this world needs really bad. It seems unless something really big threatens our limited way of life, we are content to contuinue with our everyday world destroying life. We know that we are doing many things wrong in the name of money. And we also know that there are many bad results for everyone on earth. I think what we are being told is that we need to wake-up. We are more than just flesh and blood in this universe. And until we are forced to see beyond it, out of need for need we won’t. If you want to know more of what we really are, check out DMA Body Health.

      • 19 from_the_bleachers December 19, 2012 at 6:08 pm

        First off, I am very skeptical about the whole nibiru thing, I question it but I don´t necessarily dismiss it, yet. But man, your bit about CNN and BBC not talking about it was a little bizarre. How long did it take for CNN or the BBC to start reporting on the manifestations inside the US over the financial fraud? How about their reports that Fukushima is AOK now? or how about the bit about BP cleaning the beaches along the gulf and resolving the whole macondo situation? you seem like an intelligent man Dan, no disrespect but you can´t seriously think that the garbage and propaganda that CNN and BBC emit is reliable information. It´s the era of instant communication, people see/hear things that aren´t deemed important enough to these networks and they will ignore it so people share these experiences through the web.
        Now, I´m not saying that everything you find online is true or backed up by verifiable data, but all you need is to see what these networks used to be and what they are now to be skeptical of their information and so-called expert insight they dispense.

      • 20 Dan Swindlehurst December 21, 2012 at 1:59 pm

        News outlets like the BBC and CNN clearly aren’t perfect, after all, they’re essentially news entertainment channels, their reporting of events is tempered by what they believe will be popular news

        But, they do report the big world-changing events, civil war is Syria, all over the news, MPs expense fraud in the UK, we’ve had hours and hours of reporting, the elections in the US, all over the BBC and CNN

        If there was even a glimmer of a chance that the world would end today, believe me, you’d see nothing else on the BBC and CNN for months. But they understand that the 2012 phenomenon has nothing to do with the Maya, was created by Hollywood, and is not real. In fact I’ve seen on the BBC website they’re reporting on the apocalypse today, see here for an example – but they’re basically making fun of it

  6. 21 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    and 1 more thing i saw so many link tat show news say tat there is nibiru out there
    error:ermmm most of it i understand but i still confused so is it true tat nibiru close to earth?? i need conclusion haha sorry about tat
    this is another evidence again c this 1 pls
    the error is tat i forget to look at it haha

    if is fake y did all those news guy ( i so called them news guy) say those fake if nibiru is fake.y?? to make ppl scared?? wad for??

    • 22 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 2:22 pm

      That’s a really good question, why do people make up stories about Nibiru and other hoaxes?

      Sometimes its for money. There are a lot of websites that talk about the end of the world in 2012, and then try to sell you something, which is pretty awful

      But I think a lot of the time, people are just bored, and a story like Nibiru is fun, so they make their own Youtube videos to entertain themselves

      I’m sure some people do believe in Nibiru too, and they think they’re helping by spreading the misinformation about it, but they’re actually doing more harm than good, because they’re scaring people for no reason

  7. 23 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    huu this is quite a big fight for the real nibiru and the false nibiru
    1 thing IF U ARE LYING TO ME I WONT FORGIVE U TAT MY WARNING
    IF U ARE REALLY A SCIENTIST PLS DO NOT LY

    • 24 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      I know a lot of people are worried about Nibiru and the end of the world in 2012, and that’s why I wrote these posts. I wanted people to read the truth as I don’t want people to be scared about something that isn’t going to happen. I’m not lying to you 🙂

      I’m not a scientist yet, I’m still a student, but one day I hope to be a scientist, and most scientists and science students I’ve met love science because they love finding out the truth. Scientists usually don’t care what politicians and other people believe, they want to find out the truth, because that’s what they’re driven to do. In fact, you make a successful career in science by uncovering the truth, and if a scientist is found to be lying or hiding the truth, then their career is usually destroyed

      So I’d say you can usually trust scientists, they don’t like lying to people 🙂

      • 25 Aaron August 5, 2011 at 4:56 pm

        you have NO credentials mr. dan why should anyone believe what you have to say if you are telling ppl that all nibiru videos are fake because reputable scientists did not release it to the news. There are 1000’s of stories that news media stations do not cover because they choose what propaganda to supply the public.

  8. 26 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    errrrr i am sry about tat i fell like a bit angry randomly haha

    • 27 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm

      No worries 🙂

      Have you seen this guy’s video?

      He’s a famous NASA scientist. I know a lot of people think NASA can’t be trusted, because its part of the US government, but its not true. NASA is full of slightly geeky scientists who love space and love talking about what they do

      If you can’t trust this guy, who can you trust?!

      • 28 vincent April 13, 2011 at 3:08 pm

        wait wait i write a lot of mistake
        correction: wad do u think if we say nibiru going to hit 2012 wad u think tat public guy going 2 react?? to me the answer is scared and so on. mayb tat the reason

  9. 29 vincent April 13, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    zz error i mean i type quite bad message

    • 30 Dan G Swindles April 13, 2011 at 3:19 pm

      No worries

      I think if Nibiru really was going to hit the Earth in 2012, then the world would probably descend into chaos. I’m pretty sure I’d instantly quit my job and just try to have as much fun as I could before it all ended. If everyone did this, then our society would collapse pretty fast.

      And I could imagine some governments trying to keep this a secret. But I don’t think a government would be able to keep it secret for very long. I’m from the UK, and government employees here regularly leak secrets to the media when they see something that’s wrong. I’m sure the same would happen in Nibiru was true

      And besides, if Nibiru really existed, then everyone would be able to see it in the sky, and you’d be able to see it getting bigger over the next 18 months, so it would be completely impossible to keep it a secret

  10. 31 vincent April 13, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    wait i wrote a lot of error tat look like offensive lol

  11. 32 joe August 7, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Vincent is posting clips of actual proof and all you say Dan is that its made up. Where is your proof other than your “word” There is historical proof that the events that “could” take place if nibiru is real have happened. Real scientists have proven that the earth has undergone polar shifts(by studying ice cores) and multiple ice ages and the timelines go together with 2012 and the Mayan calender they also go together with egyptian records. The only thing scientists havnt done is show photos of it happening in the past because cameras didnt exist during the past polar shifts but there is evidence all over the world written in stone carved in stone and shaped in stone. I think its pretty weak to say all the evidence is made up you should do more research.

    • 33 Dan G Swindles August 7, 2011 at 11:57 am

      I’m sorry to say that all of these videos are fakes. There is no scientific proof that Nibiru exists. But please don’t take my word for it, you can take NASA’s word for it instead, after all they are the experts. Have you watched the video I posted in the comments above?

      As for the proof of polar shifts, there is no proof of polar shifts, its a dead theory. At one time some scientists thought that polar shifts could happen, but they’ve realised that its impossible, and the theory has been replaced by plate tectonics. There is no evidence written in the rocks, you can trust me on this, I’ve just come back from a geology field trip where I saw evidence of past volcanoes, sea-level change and plate tectonics, but no polar shift evidence, as its impossible.

  12. 34 jeremy August 12, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    @Aaron @Joe can both of you stop??? The proof is in the sky. Look up. That’s all you have to do. If nibiru is suppose to be here in a year why isn’t it noticeable?? Don’t tell someone to do research when the only research you 2 have ever done was look up YouTube videos. I promise I can contradict everything you have to say about nibiru. Yall are just scaring yourselves and its pathetic. You can believe that a brown dwarf is going to come into contact with earth, but I’m going to go have a good time w my friends and family without even thinking there is a possibility of nibiru. Hope this made you feel stupid.

  13. 35 Uncle Darryl December 28, 2011 at 6:32 am

    I Have Found “Nibiru”….It’s a Hot Dog Stand/ Deli that Serves “The True” “Nibiru” Hot Dog in East Bremerton Washington…It is Owned By The Johnson and Pheasant Family and it Does Not Open Until 12/21/2012…Or as They Say …12-21-12…..There Motto Is “Don’t Nibiru…Just Eat the Damn Thing Phenomenon Breath ” !!!!……Real Thought was Put into That…Anyway See You There for the Big Event !!! Respectively Submitted Uncle Darryl

  14. 36 sagan January 6, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Buuuhahahahahahaahahah!!!!!!

  15. 37 Alan January 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Dan,

    I’m sorry to say, but your biggest claim against the possibility of Nibiru is that “NASA says it’s not true, so it simply isn’t” is really childish. One thing I’ve learned over the years, never-ever trust a government. There always are good guys, with good intentions, but how simple is it to silence them forever, really?

    Also, polar shifting is very much possible, the poles are moving constantly, at very low speed, barely noticeable (it’s happening as we speak), but there are serious, founded claims that polar shifts occurred before.

    Also I must admit, that the claim against the existence of Nibiru, that If it was coming our way, we’d see it already is really strong and one simply thinks, “yeah, that’s right”, but then again isn’t it true that (not 100% sure here, bare in mind) brown dwarfs, or what ever, are seen in infrared spectrum – until they are really close – only? Making it close to impossible for amateurs to see? I might be absolutely wrong here, please feel free to lecture me. I’ve also seen a “pop” interview with people from nasa, talking about “boring” stuff, taking questions from callers etc., and one guy, very reasonably asked about the existence of “nibiru” and the woman un-purposedly confirmed it (they were the people from the infrared telescope or what-not project).

    I’d like to conclude, that I’m a reasonable person, who seeks truth as far as my capabilities go, and I tend to only believe in what I see, but every time some situation comes up, where I have to question myself, I always say, that we know oh so little, we see oh so little, and the possibilities are endless with such serious sh*t going around we can’t even notice new theories are formed daily, we just need to “wait for it”.

    P.S.:I’m really hoping that this is a hoax, but I must admit, this idea of a failed star coming our way, has put me at serious discomfort and I’m patiently waiting for the final proof, whether true or false.

    • 38 Dan Swindlehurst January 7, 2012 at 12:22 pm

      Hi Alan

      I completely agree, you should never blindly trust a government as politicians have very strong incentives to lie to their electorate, but you misunderstand me, I’m not saying Nibiru doesn’t exist because the government says it doesn’t. This would be extremely naive.

      You can’t trust politicians because they have an incentive to lie, and you can’t trust many people, but you can generally trust scientific experts. Scientists typically go into research because they love their topic of study and because they love understanding how the world works. Most scientists work long hours for comparatively little pay, they don’t do their science for money, prestige and a rock n’ roll lifestyle, they do it for a love of the truth.

      Scientists also have very strong incentives to tell the truth; in science you make a successful career for yourself by proving other scientists wrong. If you produce deliberately misleading research then you will eventually be exposed and your career will likely be finished.

      And this is the key point, you can be sure that Nibiru doesn’t exist as not one serious astronomer has confirmed its existence. If a large body was heading towards Earth, due to impact in 2012, then astronomers all over the world would be able to see it (in many different spectra), would have a very strong incentive to raise awareness of it, and no government would be powerful or capable enough to silence them.

      Also a polar shift is not possible, its a dead scientific hypothesis that has been disproved. The drift of the magnetic poles is a completely different phenomena (and as you correctly point out, is real). You can read more about it here if you’d like: https://astrobioloblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/the-mayan-apocalypse-of-2012-nibiru-crustal-displacement-the-end-of-the-world-%E2%80%93-part-4/

      • 39 Marcia Lewis February 23, 2012 at 12:28 am

        If the polars never shift, then how did they find plant life under all that ice? they have just produced a living plant from seeds from millions of years ago. How did the plants get there if the ice was always there. I have read articles that the poles were once tropical.

      • 40 Dan Swindlehurst February 25, 2012 at 12:07 pm

        Hi Marcia

        This is a great question

        There are three different concepts that need to be distinguished

        1. Polar shift – this is the idea that the landmasses around the poles can rapidly and dramatically move to a different location on our planet i.e. Antarctica at the South Pole suddenly moving up towards the equator

        2. Plate tectonics and continental drift – this is the idea that the continents move very slowly over time as the surface of the Earth is made up of tectonic plates that are moved around by processes with the Earth i.e. Africa and America are moving slowly apart (around the speed your thumb nail grows) as the Atlantic Ocean is opening as two tectonic plates are moving apart

        3. Drift of the magnetic poles – the Earth is a giant magnet with a magnetic North and South each with a different charge. The exact location of these magnetic North and South can move slowly over time, but this involves no movement in the continents or any other rock or material, its only a magnetic process.

        Ideas 2 and 3 are real things that actually happen. Idea 1 was an idea that some scientists believed to be true around 100 years ago, but we now know that it is totally impossible and no real scientist supports it today.

        The reason that you can find evidence of tropical plants at places like Antarctica is due to plate tectonics, Antarctica used to be nearer the equator hundreds of millions of years ago, but has very slowly drifted to its present location.

      • 41 Marcia February 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm

        Thanks you for your reply and thank you for explaining that to me. I completely understand it now. Our earth is such a wonderful creation and so is it’s creator. Thanks again, Marcia

  16. 42 Alan January 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Sorry for a double post, I couldn’t find an edit function, but I really feel the need to post this short text, as it has helped me numerous times, and it always lurks in my mind.

    “Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities — the political, the religious, the educational authorities — who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing — forming in our minds — their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. ”

    It’s a quote from Dr. Timothy Leary

    • 43 Dan Swindlehurst January 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm

      Its a good quote Alan, and I think its a great description of what scientists do.

      Scientists challenge authority, such as religious and political dogma, in order to gain a fuller and more accurate understanding of the world around us. In fact there has been a long history of people in authority trying to suppress scientific discovery as it often challenges their world-view and legitimacy

  17. 44 Alan January 7, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Dan,

    thank you for your swift reply. I must say, that I completely agree with you, I have stayed up all night thinking about this topic and I have come to the conclusion, that it was the fear that has blinded me, I was too quick to decide on the subject, and yesterday, as I have once again challenged myself, I realized just how naive I was to believe that such a giant body was heading our way completely undetected. I also think that IF such thing was as close as it is claimed to be, we could definitely feel some changes, that would be scientifically measurable, yet no such thing has occurred as of yet.

  18. 45 Marcia February 23, 2012 at 12:19 am

    If the poles have never shifted, then how are they able to discover plant life under all that ice? They have produced a plant from the seeds founds under the ice from millions of years ago. How did the plants grow under ice, if the ice was always there?

  19. 46 Marcia Lewis February 23, 2012 at 12:23 am

    If the polars never shift, then how do you explain plants found under the ice? They have just produced a living plant from the seeds found under ice from millions of years ago. How did the plants get there if the ice was always there?

  20. 47 Marcia February 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Thank you for your rely and thank you for explaining this to me. It makes perfect sense to me now. Our world is a wonderful creation and so is it’s creator.

  21. 48 Mohammed Ayoob March 11, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Dear Mr. Dan, I have been very seriously watching the developments of the theory of end of the world. I agree on your views. They are very scientific. I very frankly say you those who shared the views and worries are living in a scientifically developed country like The UK is unbelievable.

    Thank you very much

    Mohammed Ayoob Khan (India)

  22. 49 Nirmal manji March 26, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Dan
    your thinking is good

  23. 50 raf April 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Comment pouvez être persuadé que nibiru est un fantasme…
    Les vidéos sur le net sont surement truquées mais nibiru existe surement et vous vous ne pouvez pas comprendre car vous êtes rationnel et vous recevez de l’argent des hauts gouvernements pour enduire les gens sérieux dans le rédicule.

  24. 51 ZadocH April 27, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    Nibiru isnt reall, the proff is that today 27-aphril-2012 i canot see it on the sky, when i can see it i can say its true, but the people is getting skared about it, seeing videos from peole who have other commercial interest, i am watching with a telescope of my own looking for it and i didnt find anithing, then i pray for people dont try to get anymore scaring for the people, must concentrate into other serious things like global warming thats is true, we have a lot of proof and nobody doeas nothing about it we are destroying our planet we are goin to die not because mayan calendary or a crazy planet, not because of anunaky invadin us, but about we are like the most destructive animals over the universe we are the worst pest, on our galaxy, we are destroying our own house 😦

  25. 52 Uh OH! June 30, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Why are the coordinates in google sky blacked out where Nibiru is suppose to be? Weird..

  26. 53 Uh OH! June 30, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    The coordinates are ” 5h 53m 27s,-6 10′ 58. ”
    Blacked Out.. Completely blacked out……. Why?

    • 54 Dan Swindlehurst June 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm

      I’ve seen websites pointing to these coordinates before, and I’ve heard various claims that the Government/Google are hiding the data here from us, but if you dig a little deeper this conspiracy theory quickly falls apart because:

      1. There is a blank spot, not because its been censored, its because the data (images) aren’t of a perfect uniform quality, there are lots of areas of better and worse quality throughout Google Sky
      2. The data comes from a high-resolution scan of the northern hemisphere sky from 1958! Yep, 1958! The images are more than 50 years old. If Nibiru could be seen in this area of the sky 50 years ago and its headed towards the Earth, then it would have been visible in our sky probably for a couple of decades, but its not
      3. And the best proof of all that this is a hoax is that this area of the sky has been examined more than once and can be seen on other star maps like Sky Map, you can see it here

  27. 55 serhan sakıp deniz November 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    hi to all from Turkey;
    first of all, from all evidences of history… world have been visited many times by many different extraterrestrials..especially read the exodus..the so called god seems to be a very snob greedy and angry alien with a huge spacecraft to create clouds over mountains..and shoot 2 of moses brothers sons with a gun which makes them burn infront of masses…or spacecraft stops between egypt army and jews as a cloud wall and gives light from sky to the side of jews..it is enough for a person who is not stupid i think…

    so when we come to 2012,
    there may not be a visible nibiru or any planet x etc..but so many disasters by nature has been given clues that; in our planet, something is going wrong i think.. tsunamis, earthquakes,extreme storms etc..
    this is very visible you dont need a telescope or government paid nasa scientists saying all things are bullshit or made up..
    nasa or any united states originated institution is not trustable until area51 or 9-11 fake attacks are dis-covered by everyone..even here a child wont believe a boeing hit pentagon and they gave 5 frames of stupid photos as proof:))) so why should we believe or trust those stupids thinking they are intelligent than us? this is very certain..
    or twin towers controlled demolitions…are we that much stupid to believe?

    dan you can not deny these facts, i ve never seen a passenger plane with no windows and with extra parts did you ?

    anyways those are little examples that why people do not believe or trust Nasa or media..

    And if something is not concealed why they are building such big underground shelters in united states?

    there will be something to happen and i think certain groups maybe rich people or some religious or belief groups ruling who are exploiting masses are highly informed about the things what will happen…

    even a very bad catastrophic event or a happening in our solar system that will effect the world..
    but something will happen..
    maybe not in 21 december..but it will because they are making their preparations about that and these are very well known issues..

    may be 21 december we may not see nibiru but it may be end of an era..or a begining of something related to our solar system would happen and cause catastrophic events that harms the earth…who knows..
    we will see..

    but the worst scenerio if a very big event happens..and only those riches or aristocratic psycopaths stay alive…believe me the world will be the worst place after that and i really dont prefer to live in such a world with those disgusting people..and they all would kill eachother because of their selfishness and greed :))

  28. 56 from_the_bleachers December 19, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Oh and btw, the mayan “prophecy”, the ending of its calendar, talks about the end of an age, not the end of the world. But hey we can´t help ourselves, we have to capitalize and flip it into some apocalyptic shenanigan that sells movies.

    • 57 Dan Swindlehurst December 21, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      Agreed, I wrote a post about that too here in which I talked about the Maya and how they never predicted the end of the world

      But, you know, why let the truth get in the way of a good story 🙂

      • 58 Sweet July 24, 2015 at 6:52 am

        It’s July 24 2015 and I’m laughing thinking about how people thought incredible stories of 21 december 2012 xD the funny thing is that even if I did’nt believe in those stories sometimes i asked myself what if i was wrong? haha yes all that youtube and news videos bombarding with stories of December 2012 sometimes make the most esepectical people doubt (the power of the media! specialy if you are a young women xD) but hey! I thought that least i had the privilege to live in this beautiful awesome planet…. yes many things have happend in this years some goods and bads but we continue ALIVE!! now today there is again this whole Nibiru story saying that in SEPTEMBER 2015 will again destroy or pass near the earth 😄 hahaha lol and I remember what you did writte:

        “Nancy Lieder claimed it would fly past on the 27th of May 2003. It didn’t. I’m sure someone will make another Nibiru claim after 2012, maybe 2025”

        They did claim it sooner than you expected!! (;×_×) hahaha
        Thanks for your post! it helped me to clear my mind and worry about things that really matter like enjoying my life with the people I love ..As we all know sadly there isn’t a need of a huge event or the end of the earth to leave this world so it’s better to enjoy our years, months or seconds with things that are truly valuable and that make us happy so that even if someday or in 10 minutes it happens a catastrophic event we will not regret our lives (^-*)

        P.S sorry for my english i’m from Mexico


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